I've got five in the brooder off a jay bird gyp four weeks today. Got a pair about year old that I really like, not the fastest hounds in the world but they just keep coming, the longer you let um run the rougher they get. Think they will be rough in a three day as they don't seem to weaken. The other thing I like about um is you don't see up and down the road they go across a road not up and down it