my insurance is provided by my employer so does that make it ok for the goverment to extort money from me to pay for this socialist health care plan

Worm,... I think that's a valid question for Jackie. Health Insurance is a priority. I love to raise these dogs, but they are for my enjoyment. If it came down to me choosing between the two I would have to sell some hounds to keep my insurance paid up. Others out there can afford insurance, but they won't buy it b/c it cuts into the money they spend on luxury items every month. They feel as if they are entitled to be covered at someone else's expense.



Kyle Stotesberry
252-809-9124

Does anyone know exactly what Health Care Reform is? 2000 pages of bull sh**. Define what is included, anyone show me how it works, and is going to work. I have not found a person yet or a politician that can tell anyone, anything??????????

Brian, if every insurance co. was honest I would be right with you, but when they raise premiums and cut benefits and kick some people off of the plan, then turn around and show a 20% increase in profit every year. Why can't the profit stay the same for a year or two our wages sure have not increased that much. Then they spend millions in washington lobbying against healthcare reform, it's just hard for me to believe they are looking out for my best interest. I may be ignorant but am not stupid enough to believe that. How often hear recently has your employer told you he can't afford to give you a raise because your insurance is going up? Fact check this stuff, ask your senator and congressman how much money he recieved from health insurance co.'s. Google it ,that is public record's, don't be scared that I might be right.

Kyle I know that is a valid question, but I know Jackie was laid off from a job that provided healthcare. He went back to work within a week or so because he is good at what he does. Probably makeing the same amount of money on the check. But when you have to come out of your pocket for insurance for a family of four it's gonna cost you about $800 a month depending on your families health status. Do we as American's need to give up things we enjoy so the rich can get richer. When they are on a trip with their family I bet they are thinking about me and you.

This my last post on this topic, people talk about helping themselves sit back and listen to Glenn Beck,Rush and the Repub's with all the great idea's that did nothing to help nobody but big companies when they had control and don't check the fact's. We'll see who helps who.

Fact Check this, the gap between the lower and the upper class has been shrinking since the 1980's quess which class is getting bigger?

???? you must be a true foxhunter to tell another foxhunter to get rid of his dogs. My family does come first and anybody that knows me knows that. Insurance at my new job would run me 1200 a month. i would sell every dog if i could make that much off them to pay for insurance. So don't tell me about priorities when dogs don't cost near that much! I have been on both ends of the insurance deal wait till it happens to you and see how you feel!

well said Jackie,I have been on both ends of spectrum but I have to say I have never had a job like Worm and Bird----one where you sit on computer running the country lol and getting paid along with insurance benefits all while accruing vacation.

I think for the most part most folks are missing the point on this issue. From what I gather everyone will now pay at least a little and that is really all that has changed. When was the last time a hospital refused anyone care even if they did not have insurance??? Maybe now with this reform we wont look at an itemized bill and find we were billed 300 bucks for an extra strenght tylenol or 300 bucks for a plastic urinal. I know that the specialty clinics require insurance but with this reform now it is possible for everyone to enjoy the privilege of top notch medical care.


Worm dont give up on this post I think you have a slight edge on Bird at this point.

worm i wish i had a hound with as much grit as u have shown in this post. I agree with you if everybody would get involved and fact check we would all be better off. The corruption in the govermnet is out of control on both side its terrible. I dont thing u can trust any of them. i just lave a good debate and glad it getting so many replys. an yes i do get my insurance payed for by my employer. I praise the good lord everyday that im am blessed to have a good job and i know what it is like not to have anything cause i have been there. keep it up worm dont give up.. an yeah i wish i was rich play the lottery every week hope i hit it big. one last question for you what state u live in? i would like to meet u. seem like one heck of a guy a guy with conviction an fire inside. i am so glad bird started this dont know him either but he must be a heck of a nice guy to. beside what else would we have done this week? answer that question.

I am agaisnt anything that dont have freedom
of choice . PERIOD Do yall relize when the fines
are not paid after 2014 there is a part in the
bill where they can LEVY your assets . My Grampaw
Never spent one night in the hospital in his life.
So making a man pay 100000 over 50 years of never
beeing sick. It will never fly like this. Judges
have all ready ruled that parts of it is unconstitutional. It will be so watered down all it
will mean is notch in our idiot presidents belt.
Lets pray it gets watered down. The small company
I work for say if it dont they will go out of business. If they tell me what to do, I DONT LIKE IT.
If they tell me when i have to do it, I DONT LIKE IT.
If they tell me How to do it. I DONT LIKE IT.
If they tell me I got to pay, I DONT LIKE IT.

SHELBY


p.s I still cant believe yall voted that black S$B in

I Think they should vote on A new dog food bill all the dogfood won at feid trials should be dispensed to all foxhounds in the country this way my sorry dogs could eat to sounds fair right.

Small business owner myself. Like that man said, our Grandfolks didnt have all this technology to keep you alive when it was your time to go ( and cost you 50000000000) for the rest of your bedridden life!! What I am gonna have to do is by land on the beach in Mexico, build a big azz fox pen, and live off tequila, corona , and senoritas I am saving for a couple more years, then your all welcome!!! But I do need some good dogs to speed up the process!

Spoolie you made me do it. Josh I live in Kiln, Mississippi and believe it or not I consider Bird a real friend, if I need something I have no doubt he would be their to help me if I need it. He is a fine man ,even though he is republican. And I wish I had a hound as tough as me too. Daddy always told me when you are dumb, you got to be tuff.
Cody if I am at a field trial and get lucky enough to win a bag of feed and you need some to feed your hounds you let me know and you can have it. If you really need it.

Shelby I thank God your grandfather never got sick. I had a Grandfather and a Grandmother that was the same way up until right before their death.
Know hear is the real reason I am so passionate about everybody getting quality healthcare. I did not want to bring this up but here goes.

In 1991 my daughter was born, if anybody remembers the begining of the 90's there was very little work, I was layed off, not by choice just lack of work. Did not have insurance at the time. On my daughter's 6th day of life she had her 1st heart surgery, we were lucky there was this program called Medicade which she automatically qualified for because she was classified a disabled. When she was 2 she had her second heart surgery. Know I was back working but my insurance would not cover a prexisting condition. Thank God for the people who Passed Medicare. Know I could go on for 5 more years of her life but I will skip to when she was almost 8 years old. Haley's cardiologist sent us to Harvard medical center in Boston, Mass. for a 3rd heart surgery, we got their on July the 1st 1999, on July the 4th we were told she had cancer of the liver. We came home and for the next year we averaged 3 days a week over at Ocherners hospital in New Orleans, Now I was working but missed alot of time. On July 11, 2000 She went to HEAVEN, she was a special child you can ask anybody who knew her. I know one thing , She's in alot better place than we are.

Know I don't no for sure what all of that may have cost but I don't think I would have it paid off yet and probably never could. I know she had been gone for 4 years when I did pay my last part. Thank GOD for Medicade. I've never ask anybody for help and never will but I have had it before, Thank GOD for family and friends.

So when I say not everybody abuse's the system you know what I mean, I know for a fact I'm not the only one on this sight that knows someone just like me because I can show you 5 within 40 miles of my home. Now what part of paying bill's for the rest of your life fit into FREEDOM? Remember this, I did not ask for her to go through this so I could get a hand out.

The point I'm trying to make is, We the people, Not I the person. Just because I have a good job and have insurance don't mean I'm any better than those that don't. I've said before I don't like them lazy people who don't want to work,but I d--n sure don't like someone with money, stealing from the needy. By the time Obama finishes his presidency you will see were all the tax dollors are going. Give him and the dem's a little time. They have already found over a billion dollors in fraud.

And before you criticize Our President you might want to check out what he has done with our foriegn relations in the 1st year and a half of his presidency. There are other news channels other than fox news.

Know I did not right this for sympothy, I just wanted for yaw to understand why I feel the way I do. I know I want change many people's mind on the issues, because if we all agreed we could not have these disscusion's.

Sorry for the drug out story, and if I mispelled any words. Now this is my last post...

Worm only problem in your grammar is Know should be now.

I truly do hope you are right on this program, I do want to see everyone be able to afford insurance, but from what I've read, and what I've posted above from out of the bill, some, take Jackie for instance, will save only about $100-$200 per year, he blows that much every month on little debbie snack cakes at the store. "We" the ones who have company benefits at a very reasonable rate will be paying as much as a few "thousand" more a year. You know good and well that I don't mind paying my part of everything, and I try to help the needy the best I can, but why not call it what it is "MANDATORY INSURANCE" instead of free insurance. Nothing free about it except for the people who already qualify for Medicaid and Chips.
P.S. the ones that will get free insurance are already getting free medical expenses. F.Y.I.

Let's keep in mind this isn't about health "reform", it is about CONTROL YAY!!!! The gubmint gonna saves us!!!!
And remember, nowhere in the Constitution does is say either health care or insurance is a right. It's a privilege. It's a service you and I pay for. That's the cold hard reality.
Worm,reading your post,I can't understand how you can be an American and hate hardwork and success so much. You must be a union hardleg.

I CHALLENGE ALL OF YOU TO YOUTUBE "JASON MATTERA" AND WATCH THESE VIDIOS.AFTER I SAW THIS IT REALLY MADE WONDER IF SOME PEOPLE EVER TALK TO THIER KIDS ABOUT POLITICS AND BUSINESS.

it is in the bill that a share of the money is going to a rehabilitation center for child molesters. not the child, the molester. now that was real smart sob that included this. i cant say that the all of the bill is bad, but i cant see where its going to help anyone. the last time i checked we have charity hospitals, i know because ive used one before.

Steve C. , will you are somebody,anybody, PLEASE answer my question . WHO PAYS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO THE HOSPITAL TO GET HEALTHCARE THAT DON'T HAVE INSURANCE OR CAN'T PAY FOR IT? (NOT INCLUDING THE PEOPLE ON MEDICARE ARE MEDICADE.) It's obvious you have not read my post nowhere have I said that I hate Hardwork and success. If you call screwing people out of money for their personal gain, I do hate that. And yes I am A UNION MEMBER, Since 1986 and will die a union member. Who do you think came up with an 8 hour workday, and the 40 work week. The next time you work 1 hour of overtime and get 1 1/2 times the pay for that hour thank a union member, if you get off for holidays thank a union member, Who do you think had these articles put in the constitution? Again thank a union member. It was not us present day members, but we do keep employers honest to this day. But that's another post later. And I will tell you when healthcare and insurance became a right. When it became a law that NO PUBLIC HOSPITAL CAN TURN ANYBODY AWAY EVEN IF THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY. Very, very,very few people can go all the way through a lifetime and not need healthcare to extend their life. To me that make's it a RIGHT. Now tell me I'm wrong. I'll bet you have someone in your family or close freinds that has had a heart surgery that would be dead right now had they not got it. Now as an american HOW CAN YOU DENY THAT FACT?

Bird, try not to be so pesamistic.

Craig I challange you to watch Msnbc for one night, And watch CSPAN, it's not bias at all you just see and hear the facts.

. if you are man enough to post your name I might comment on your post. Well iI will ask you wear do the charity hospital's get their money?

Question for all of you republicans, how many years have repub's had control of the presidency since 1980?

History is the most important course in school but everybody seems to forget it.

I HATE TO REITERATE MY POINT FROM OUR DEBATE DURING THE ELECTION BUT THE DEMS HAVE HAD CONTROL OF THE WHOLE PROCESS FOR 47 YEARS OUT OF THE LAST 49 YEARS. HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO THEY NEED? THE REPUBLICANS HAD THE PRESIDENCY AND A SLIGHT MAJORITY IN CONGRESS FOR 2 YEARS DURING BUSH'S TERM SINCE 1961(AND COULD NOT LEGISLATE THEIR IDEAS DUE TO A COUPLE OF LIBERAL REPUBLICANS.) WHATEVER HAS HAPPENED TO THIS COUNTRY SINCE THAT TIME CAN BE CREDITED OR BLAMED ON DEMS.

Bill Clinton inherited bushs seniors deficiate and turned it into a surplus, then bush junior rang up trillions on dollars in deficiate again and raped this country for eight years, how is that the dems fault, cry baby

Repubs where in control during clintons stay also

WHAT DO YOU TYPE IN TO READ THE BILL? I CAN ONLY FIND BITS AND PIECES OF IT.

Republican President 1981 to 1992 and 2001 to 2008 = 20 years
Republican Senate 1981 to 1986 and 2001 to 2006 = 12 years
Republican House 2001 to 2006 = 6 years

Democrat President 1993-2000 and 2009 to now = 9 1/3 years
Democrat Senate 1987 to 2000 and 2009 to now = 6 1/3 years
Democrat House 1981 to 2000 and 2009 to now = 21 1/3 years
Coyote News = do the math.I report, you decide.

Just a little off pound puppy, I really don't think this is the real Pound Puppy.

ed/labor.house.gov/blog/2010/03/affordable-health-care-for-ame.shtml

See if this might help David, or anybody else with inquiring minds.

Those were pretty good years. Said I wouldn't have anything else to say , but you answered everything for me. I bet you think Jimmy Carter was a great President also ? The Repubilican party has not been perfect by any means , but if worse then the Dems. why do they keep getting elected by youre very own numbers. You do the the Math ! I am a conserative don't vote for any one party.I try to go with whats best for the country not myself.

PS Obama and Carter all time worst in my life time

Clinton has to be a close third because all of this bank bail out and housing market crash was a direct result of the financiall policies he put in to effect.everything soared for awhile but when you are loaning money to people that dont have the means to pay it back eventually something has to give.so dont blame all this countrys problems on the republicans

Mr. Ray, I was in the 7 th grade when Reagan was elected don't know much about Carter or Reagan's early years. And I never said the Dem's were perfect either. I'm a construction worker and I know , and most people will agree, when Democrats are in office they are spending money and almost everybody goes to work. The only way you can make money is spend money. That's why we had a surplus after President Clinton's term. If your making money and not spending none ,which would be investment's, you are cheating someone out of it.

Brian, did fox news report that the 9 largest bank.s have paid their bailout money back with interest. Citi Bank paid their's back this past week with 9 Billion in Interest. I ain't no banker but that was a pretty good investment for the tax payers of this country. It saved a bunch of jobs and made money. Conservatives said it would not work. And if what you said about Clinton is true you can't blame Obama for what's happening right now. The repubs had 6 years of controll and did not fix nothing. Took us to war, what has this war cost? Are you like the rest of the repub's just ignore the cost of the war.

Obama could turn out to be the worst President we ever had and I will be the first to say so.

He could be the best and most folk's on hear will never admit it.

Give him and congress more than a year and 1/2 and see what happens you might just be suprised.

Worm I beleive in my heart,.... if Obama held a press conference and told the world that dog tirds taste good on a cracker, you and all the other liberals would reach down and get you a scoop.




Kyle Stotesberry
252-809-9124

Kyle after some people I know have been laid off because of the economy, not because they have choose to be, having to just about eat dog turds. I might would smell it. You gone to tell me you do not know one person that is in one of these situations I have mentioned.

What you have stated would be like Bush telling us our economy would be better at the end of his presidency. WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

I made a mistake on the amount of interest Citi Bank will pay, it's only 8 billion.

I've been listening to a Radio show, and since I have not read one solution yet I have one for yaw. Lets get rid of Social Security, Medicade and Medicare. If you happen to have a heart attack or get cancer or some catostrophic illness, you better be able to pay for it, if not you can't get healthcare. How you like me know.

Yeah Man I know a lot of folks in the same situations as you have mentioned above. But I don't think this health reform bill is the answer. Alot of the folks claim they can't afford health insurance, but they don't have any trouble paying their monthly cell phone, satelite tv, and internet bills. Maybe they could afford health insurance if their priorities were in the right order.



Kyle Stotesberry
252-809-9124

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIDBMj5XWYo

Kyle I'm with you, I really don't know if it's the answer or not either, but a least they are trying. Everybody know's something has got to be done. If the repub's and some dem's have all the solution's, why did they not do something in the 8 years prior to Obama. The only time healthcare reform come's up, is when the dem's are in controll. I agree some folk's need to get their priorities straight, but I don't think that is the sole problem. That's like people on welfare, less than 1% of the population, I'll bet their is as much money stole from fraud and abuse by these so called hardworking people than people who actually need the service. Like I ask before, do we punish the many that need it for the few that abuse it. To read some off these post everybody that get's it is abusing it.

I have not read any comment about these represenative's and senator's getting million's of dollor's from the insurance companies and big pharma. Is that capitalism? Money for their vote. And I'm being bipartasium on this issue.

If we lived in a PERFECT, HONEST world every argument on hear would be legitament. and I would agree with all of you.

liberalfood@hotmail.com,(this is for the liberals), I cannot believe a President would lie, that just make's me want to cry.

i met with a rep from caterpillar friday and he wasnt very happy,cat says they will lay off thousands to pay an additional hundred million a year to help fund obamacare.now this is a company that provided healthcare to its employees but it wont really matter to those laid off because after six years of unemployment benefits we can sign them up on obamacare

WORM I WAS WONDERING WHATS HAPPENING WITH ISRAEL AND OBAMA?FOX SAYS OBAMA HAS TURNED HIS BACK ON THEM,WHAT DOES MSNBC SAY ABOUT THAT

HEY RAY THE DAY CARTER LEFT OFFICE THE NATIONAL DEBT WAS ZERO!!!! YES ZERO !!!!! ENOUGH SAID!!Keep believing in Reaganomics and Trickle down taxes and China will own America !!!Our kids will be fighting a war for oil companies !!! It cannot be much worse than the last 4 years!!!

enough about a terrible health care plan, It is clouding the waters for all the other terrible issues Obama and his clan are creating.I am in the construction business just completing a $900,000,000 power facility. The company I worked for had bid on 6 or 7 more that were planed to start the end of 2009, but Obama and Co.were instrumental in stopping the permitting process. so each of those projects would have employed over 1200 workers. "Do the math Worm" (and do a better job than you did with your first analysis) that is cap and trade at it's finest!

you better google it again worm. with facts like the ones that you used it is no wonder that you would vote for a yellow dog as long as he is a democrat(by the way....nothing wrong with yellow dogs!) the only time that the republicans had the majority in both houses of congress and the presidency at the same time was 2001 and 2002. google,"majority house and senate 1998" and the first sentence that you will read is, "the republicans have not held a majority in the house for 40 years". if you check ALL of your facts like that then you will always be a dem!!
ps. you might also want to google something that explains how one of the branchs of congress has to itroduce a bill the other one has to pass it and then the pres signs it..........that equals 2 years republican control and 47 years dem control.

Criag how much insurance are you paying on those guys working for you?

Craig why don't you watch msnbc then you can tell all of us the truth.

Rodney if you would not mind, could you tell me the name of them projects your company had so I can fact check that for everyone?

Pound puppy you would be right if you stop in the year 2002, but if you go to 2006 you will find that the repub's had controll thru 2006. No wonder you vote for them babblers they have all of yaw believing half truth's. wikipedia.org/wiki/109th_united_states_congress
when you get there you can go up or down to check the other's.

WRONG AGAIN!!!!!!!!! THE REPS LOST THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE IN 2002.
I WILL TRY TO SIMPLIFY THIS SO MAYBE EVEN YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT! AFTER 2002 THE SENATE COULD HAVE INTRODUCED A BILL BUT IT WOULD NOT HAVE PASSED THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DUE TO THE DEM. MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE. THEREFORE THE BILL WOULD NEVER HAVE REACHED BUSHS DESK FOR HIM TO SIGN IT.
ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THE COIN, THE DEMS HAVE HAD CONTROL OF BOTH HOUSES AND THE PRES. SEVERAL TIMES DURING THE LAST 50 YEARS. RIGHT NOW IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES.

Will somebody please check out the site I have provided and tell me who had controll in the 107th, 108th and 109th congress?

Republicans are just like babblers, they sound good but ain't nothing there.

Worm are you gettin your info from wikipedia??? Dang man the youngins can't even use wikipedia for their school projects and reports b/c its accuracy is so questionable.

ABOUT MY HANDS,I PAY WORKERS COMP AND ALL THIER TAXES AND ALL HAVE THIER OWN HEALTH INSURANCE BUT IF G.P. WOULD GET RID OF THAT SORRY AZZ UNION LABOR AND UNLOAD MY TRUCKS I COULD PROBABLY HELP THEM OUT WITH IT.WORM MSNBC WAS DROPPED BY MY CABLE PROVIDER THATS WHY IM ASKING YOU ABOUT ISREAL AND THE US

worm,one simple question..i keep noticing in your comments how the non-insured are causing hospital&medical prices to soar and we end up having to pay for this..my question is what guarantee has obama made that these prices will go down with this new reform??what law trails the reform for lower medical industry pricing??what if the medical field just says "naw,,we're gonna leave it the way it is!!!who's to stop em..i've always seen the price go up,but never come down..prices of auto's,housing,boats,etc have continued to increase for years..why will this plan make the medical industry lower their prices just because you now have insurance to pay for it???

The Unions have some of the best health Insurance around. Maybe we need to get rid of the RATS to get good health care and labor !!!

Pound Puppy, you are right in they did not have complete controll, you have to have 60 members to have complete controll of the senate, but they did have the majority 50 + 1, and that + 1 could be the vice president. I misstated when I said complete controll. What I posted earlier is who had the MAJORITY during them years.

Craig that cable provider must not want you to see both sides of the stories, I wonder why? That's a shame you can't choose for yourself what to watch. Sound's like communism to me. I would find another provider, that's just me .

Dennis, I said earlier I really don't know if it's gonna work 100%, but it's a start. Look at master's, someone took a gamble and started these hunt's. Were is it at today? Been alot of changes, some people liked the change's, some did not, is it a better now then it was, I'd say so, but not everybody will agree. That's their choice. Now if you will go to the website I'm going to post, this might help you understand the difference in a boat and healthcare. You don't have to buy a boat, but at one time or another you will have to have healthcare. The price of the boat might have went up 2 or 3 percent over the past few years, health insurance has increased 30 to 40 percent in the past few years. Wages for workers have decreased. There's you answer.

moneytalksnews.com/2009/01/07/inflation-predictions-2009

WORM I thought I read about a week ago where you stated you was not going to post about this subject anymore was you just babbling if so you must be a republican in disguise.

i keep hearin it said that everyones pays for the uninsured. my sister does not have health insurance and when her child was born she rufused to get on medicare and medicaid she said she could pay and save that for the ones who trully need it. she had and still does have a good job, my wondering is about this. how did we pay for it because she didnt have insurance the cost of childbirth totaled over 15,000 dollars but SHE got billed for it and every month SHE pays the bill one month she had a rough time and was late on the payment and they tried to slap a judgment on her for the remaining balance after one month. eventually she got it all straightened back out and will have it paid off in 4 months yes its took her 3 years to pay it off but SHE herself paid it not me and u and other tax paying individuals so how does people not having health care cost us more and make things higher for us. just a simply qustion from a simple man

I WANT YALL TO KNOW THAT ONLY 190-200 PAGES OF THIS BILL PERTAIN TO HEALTHCARE,WAIT UNTIL THE OTHER 2100 PAGES MAKE IT TO THE PRESS AND YOUR REALLY GONNA BE ****** OFF,MANY OF YOU WILL BE DOING YOUR TAXES THIS WEEK JUST ASK YOUR CPA ABOUT THESE MINOR CHANGES THEY HAVE INSTORE FOR US

Worm once again you have made a liar out of me! I have said 2 times I would not respond to any more post. Man I love you because you beleive in something. I think you are 100% wrong but at least you are honest and willing to take all the heat that comes with you opinion. I know youre father is and should be proud of you. I only pray that you are right but I really think you are setting yourself up for a big let down. Hope we get to meet someday and agree to disagree. Your freind The Fat Man.

I AM SORRY, AFTER REREADING MY POSTS AGAIN I DID NOT MAKE MYSELF CLEAR. I ALSO DID NOT COUNT THE YEARS WHEN DICK CHENEY HAD THE TIE BREAKING VOTE BECAUSE TWO REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMEN VOTED WITH THE DEMS EVERY TIME, STOPPING ANY REP. BILLS FROM PASSING.
YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE 60 MEMBER MAJORITY CONTROL. I AM NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES THE DEMS HAVE HAD THAT CONTROL ALONG WITH A DEM. PRES. SINCE 1961 BUT I DO KNOW THAT CLINTON AND OBAMA HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING WITH A DEM MAJORITY.

Let the ones who dont have insurance and want to opt out of it sign an affidavit stateing that, then when their needing care and they can't pay send their bleedin a## back home. Wonder if these are the same a##holes who requires me to pay uninsured motorist on my auto insurance. Hmmmm