Mr Jeff i have already chase le the second litter it was in last months chase,i got my info from the horn as far as litter numbers,happy hunting,Ronnie Newton the Chase litter enr number for Mack is 214647 forgot you had him,he is also Horn le,Mr Jeff if you have any off ace and autumn welped july 8 07 the number is 214646,cant remember if you had the gyp named green or not