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TOP 10 THINGS OBAMA WILL FORCE YOU TO BUY

Top 10 products Obama will force us to buy

In was unlikely event that the Supreme Court allows ObamaCare’s individual mandate to survive, be prepared for an onslaught of new rules and regulations that force products upon us in order to advance the liberal agenda…

1. Broccoli


Justice Antonin Scalia advanced the prospect of government-mandated broccoli during the Supreme Court’s ObamaCare oral arguments. “Everybody has to buy food sooner or later, so you define the market as food, therefore, everybody is in the market; therefore, you can make people buy broccoli,” Scalia said. The left has long been obsessed with what we put into our bodies—from transfat and salt, to tobacco and red meat. Be prepared for a Department of Eating Healthily, with Michelle Obama in charge.

2. Chevy Volt

General Motors’ Chevy Volt was doomed to fail as consumers did not exactly flock to the showrooms for the overpriced, underperforming vehicle. Production of the Volt has been suspended and the dream of an electric car is endangered. According to the left, oil is evil, therefore the internal combustion engine must go. So be prepared to plug in your government-mandated electric car in order to save the world from global warming.

3. $5 gallon of gas

With Obama placing a good part of America’s energy resources off-limits for development, the price of gas at the pump continues to rise. The higher the better, in order to wean us from our dependence on oil. It shouldn’t be a surprise to see prices rise under this President, as he essentially promised higher energy costs when he was running for office.

4. Contraceptives

Under ObamaCare, everyone will be paying for contraceptives whether they need them or not. The misnamed Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act mandated that contraception be fully covered by health care exchanges, not even costing the recipient a co-pay. That means you will be subsidizing the sexual activity of your neighbors, co-workers, and prostitutes.

5. Inconvenient Truth movie

The left still wants us all to believe that global warming is imperiling the world and would rather not have us dwell on inconvenient inconsistencies in the theory. What with Climategate e-mails, flat temperatures, and scientists speaking out against global warming alarmism, the left is seeing their pet issue peter out. How better to reignite the cause than to require everyone to watch Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth?

6. MSNBC

The Obama administration has virtually declared war on Fox News, taking issue with its hard-hitting coverage. In the past, liberals have flirted with reinstating the Fairness Doctrine, hoping to silence right-wing critics. If emboldened by an Obama re-election victory, attempts to limit Fox and beam MSNBC into everyone’s home could be in the works.

7. Solar panels

President Obama is trying his hardest develop a viable green-energy industry in the United States, funneling billions of dollars to solar-panel makers. The problem is that there isn’t much of a market for the devices and the companies that the president has chosen haven’t done too well—witness the bankruptcy of Solyndra. Get ready for a new push to install the panels in residences throughout America.

8. Union-label goods

Big Labor has Obama in their pocket, witness the GM bailout that was a sweetheart deal for the United Auto Workers and the National Labor Relations Board’s ruling against Boeing building a plant in South Carolina. Expect more of the same with union-made goods getting a leg up over their non-union rivals.

9. Algae

Here is yet another ill-fated idea meant to put an end to U.S. oil dependence: Algae is the fuel of the future. According to President Obama, pond-scum can be harvested and turned into energy to power America. Soon, everyone will be scrapping the green algae from the bottom of their fish tanks.

10. Hoodies

As the Trayvon Martin shooting reached a boiling point, the civil rights lobby has turned the hoodie into the latest symbol of resistance to white oppression. One might expect the President to try to rise above the fray and seek to heal the nation. Instead, Obama’s re-election campaign sent a Twitter message reminding supporters that they could buy an Obama hoodie. The tweet said, “Let everyone know whose team you’re on for 2012 with today’s merchandise steal: the college-style hooded sweatshirt.”

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The Democratic Party’s Declaration of Dependence

The belief that no one owes me anything is one of the greatest gifts my hardworking, blue-collar father gave me when I was young. His words carried me through some difficult times growing up, sustained me through widowhood, years back, and helped to shape me into the person I am today.

Once upon a time in America, and not so long ago, my dad’s can-do attitude toward life was common place, until liberals and their faithful following began to understand that immense and everlasting power could be bartered by peddling handouts in exchange for votes.

If liberal politicians know anything, it’s human nature. If you give people things they did not earn from sources from which they did not contribute, those same people will soon become dependent on whatever you give them. Add to that a bit of Machiavellian trickery to redefine those handouts into rights, and voila! You have just created a permanent voting base.

In truth, liberals simply rebranded the definition of what our founders meant when they scribed the words, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.” Spinning and twisting the interpretation by suggesting “unalienable rights” are tangibles like health insurance, college educations, and food stamps rather than the intangibles our founders envisioned as “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,” liberals transformed the Declaration of Independence into a Declaration of Dependence. Before long, people bought into their lies, believing they had rights to certain “entitlements” simply because they breathed.

Sadly, these lies metastasized within today’s Democratic Party; chock full of liberals so extreme, Blue Dogs have all but disappeared. Now the entire Democratic Party platform revolves around the dangerous and devilishly un-American idea that individuals cannot achieve success without government intervention. They are dead wrong.

That the Democratic National Convention (DNC) would ask Massachusetts Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren to speak at its national convention in September tells us all we need to know about the DNC’s vision for America. Warren’s words spoken in 2011, and so echoed in recent days by President Obama, suggesting it is impossible for Americans to attain success devoid of the federal government is an indictment on how far from the American dream they have fallen.

Ms. Warren further suggests that successful job creators are obligated to an "underlying social contract” in order to “pay [it] forward for the next kid who comes along,” thereby ensuring future generations will never have the ability to stand on their own without the government.

Michelle Obama: If You Disagree with Barack, You're Probably Confused

A white guy from Chicago with a little IL legislative stint under his belt would NEVER have been considered as a national pres. candidate. The Dems. proved the ultimate racism by settling for an inexperienced, poorly documented, virtual unknown simply because he appeared to be black.

END OF DISCUSSION!!! The Chosen One, a CLEAR European style socialist, does not care about debt and fiscal responsibility. The Obamanator, whose key background was as a Community Organizer (?!), counsel for corrupt ACORN, and just 2 years in the Senate when he began to run for POTUS, WANTS us to become Greece!

Obamanable!

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I bet he owns walkers too

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If GM would have failed this country would be in deep deep trouble! So spin it any way you want BUT Obama did the right thing along with our congressmen to help keep GM going!

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GM would have failed and Ford would have grown. I think we should hold large corporations accountable and not bail them out when they get themselves into trouble, there are no consequences for making poor business decisions.

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Ford has grown and so has GM!! You idiots need to look at your congress people and elect better to help get our country headed in a better direction!! Like the healthcare ; it may not have been right BUT it was the best option out there!!!! So stop looking at the color of skin and look into the direction !!!

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Once again a no name obama supporter. I couldn't care less what his color is and just how do you figure Obamacare was the best thing out there??? It is the largest tax increase in US history. What direction are you referring?? Accumulation of so much debt our great grandchildren couldn't begin to pay it off. HAHA IDIOT

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thats asinine saying if GM went under america would be worse off. you don't think the other car companies would not have taken up the slack. you think people are going to quit buying cars cause GM went out of business would have save the american tax payers forty billion in uaw unfunded liabilities,penions etc. GM stock last week was 23 a share, it has to go for 53 and above to pay the tax payers for the bailout money, not counting the uaw money that is gone for ever. if obama was held to business smarts like other successful people, he would have been fired after the first week. he's like jessie jackson he's never had a real job in his life. he never had to produce anything. I'm from realville not blindville, the only thing anyone ever gave me, is a hardtime. when I left home at 15 I didn't have 2 pennies to rub together. I didn't wait for someone to find me a job, I created a job 1.60 hr was minimum wage was what I started at. I've had as many as 84 people working for my company at one time directly or indirectly. I AM from po-dunk ms with a GED. AIN'T NOBODY EVER BAIL ME OUT. SWIM OR DROWN OR GO TO WORK OR GO TO JAIL THATS WAS THE ADVICE GAVE TO ME WHEN I LEFT HOME. IF YOU GET KNOCKED DOWN GET BACK UP TRY IT AGAIN, DON'T BLAME THE RICH MAN. I LOVE PEOPLE WITH MONEY, IF IT WERE NOT FOR THEM I WOULD BE BROKE, AS NEW BORN PUP, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT BUY THE PRODUCTS WE PRODUCE. IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE RICH IN THIS COUNTRY WE WOULD BE A 3RD WORLD NATION WHO GIVES TO CHARITY, WHO FEEDS THE HUNGRY,WHO PAYS FOR FREE HEALTH CARE, WHO PAYS FOR FORIEN AIDE, TOP 5 PERCENT OF WAGE EARNERS PAY 70 PERCENT OF THE TAX. CONCERVATIVES GIVE 10 TO 1 IN CHARITY DOLLARS,THAN LIBERALS,THEY LIKE TO SPEND OTHER PEOPLES MONEY. FACT CHECK IT, DON'T TAKE MY WORD WHO'S MONEY WAS IT BEFORE THE GOVERMENT TAKES 50 PERCENT. OUR MONEY WE EARNED IT OBAMA TRIES TO ACT LIKE THE MONEY BELONGS TO HIM AND THE POOR AND THE REPUBS ARE TRYING STEAL IT. YOU CAN BE WEALTHY TO, HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT TO SACRIFICE, WORK FROM DAYLITE TIL 8 OR 9 EVERY NITE,6 OR 7 DAYS A WEEK.AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS. I NO SEVERAL RICH PEOPLE, HALF THE TIME THEY DON'T NO WITCH DAY IT IS. THE HARDEST THING TO DO IN THIS WORLD IS THE RIGHT THING, GIT UP AND GO TO CHURCH IN THE MORNING, ROLL OUT AT 5 AND GO TO WORK, PUSH THAT DUMPLING BACK WHEN SHE'S TRYING TO PET YOU LITTLE BIT, PASSIN THAT JOINT UP ON SIDE THE ROAD ON THE WAY HOME, PUSHING THAT BIG PIECE OF COCONUT PIE BACK,ETC ITS REAL EASY LAY IN NOT GET UP,STOP AND HAVE A COOL WITH THE BOYS, LOVE ON THAT LITTLE DUMPLING WHEN NOBODYS LOOKIN, PLAY WITH YOUR MONEY AND NOT PAY YOUR BILLS, AND BLAME THE RICH PEOPLE. BLAME THE REPUBS. IF THE WEALTHY PEOPLE QUIT WORKING, AND ALL THE BUSINESS CLOSE DOWN, WHOSE GOING TO TOTE THE LOAD OBAMA AND WHO WHO YOU GOING TO VOTE FOR THE GOVERNMENT AND OBAMA WHICH IS 15 TRILLON DOLLARS IN DEBT, WHO DEPENDS ON RICH PEOPLE TO PAY THAT 200 BILLION DOLLARS TAXES IT COLLECTS EACH MONTH, TO PAY FOR 60 PERCENT OF WHAT IT SPENDS EACH MONTH. THE GOVERMENT BORROWS 40 PERCENT EVERY MONTH TO PAY FOR ITS OVER SPENDING. I WILL VOTE FOR FREE MARKETS AND CAPITALISM WHICH HAS BUILT THE GREATEST NATION THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN.

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Yall keep on politicing more and more people are starting to understand why they have to vote for OBAMA? I'm not rich and I give to charity's and benefits all the time. It's out of the goodness of my heart knowing they need help. Not for some TAX RIGHT OFF to avoide paying taxes,( if you give $10,000 to a charity then you right it off on taxes is they really giving money or is that taking from all taxpayers?). And the fact is lower income people give a higher % of thier earnings than the rich. I don't care who you are at one time or another someone has helped you down the line. And if GM would have went bankrupt how would you tell another million people to swim or drown? And fact is taxes for ALL are lower than in the history of this democracy. And since when having a cool with the boys is for poor people who don't want to work And what is the rich going do sell thier products back and forth to each other when the middle and lower class can't afford to buy thier products. If I was lucky enough to earn a million a year I would be glad to pay 50% in taxes if thats what it would take for our country to stay strong and free. If you would study history all great empires failed after the top got all the wealth (Greed). Why not have wealth and let everyone earn a little piece of the pie also. There is on thing about UNION MADE PRODUCTS, they are made in the U S A, not in CHINA. And remember they have been more jobs created during this administration than the last created in 8 years. And I do truly believe in Free trade and capitalism as long as it is being done fairly, it's got to be regulated just like a football game, imaging a game with no officials. Ain't this fun?

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What's the point in working your butt off trying to make a million if you are just going to have to give half away?? Maybe I should just stop working and wait for you to make your million and you could just give me half LOL. Oh the other thing about UNION MADE products, they are 25% higher, thats part of a reason companies go over seas crazy wage rates and ridiculous regulations. How much money did the VP give to charities in the last 4 years?? The problem is alot of people dont want to earn a piece of the pie they think they should just have it served to them. Here are the unemployment rates
2002 5.8
2003 6.0
2004 5.5
2005 5.1
2006 4.6
2007 4.6
2008 5.8
2009 9.3
2010 9.6
2011 8.9
Note 2009-11
He made more jobs but he also lost more, and how much money did Obama have to spend to create those jobs?

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worm, i would love a piece of the pie, can you hire me cause im unemployed. where is this pie? i see the illegals eatin my pie and im buyin it for em. fact is dems are buyin votes by legalizing illegals . what a way to get elected. neither party worth a chit and we dang sure dont get to pick who we would would like to see run ,media does that for us. we are sheep with no voice. how can anyone be ok wit the present immigration status. feds wont enforce laws already in place and threatens imprisonment for anyone who takes their own action(arizona).worm, how do you support that? where are you seeing these job increases at? how do you support gay marriage when its obvious that every living species reproduces male to female. its how god made it, not us, but we cloud the truth and call it RIGHTS. i dont know if obama is the antichrist or not but i know he aint good for this country. what has he done? where are these jobs?

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The problem is we vote with our pocket books and bank accounts.I to am out of work I would rather be broke and have JESUS than A pocket full of silver and gold.Have you ever thought that maybe were in so much trouble is because we have turned our backs on the one true GOD.You can talk freedom of religion and separation of church and state all you want to but our founding fathers didnt mean throw God out the window.It doesnt take but turning on the tv and seeing what this country has turned into.Yes we need jobs but we need to put God back in charge fist.And for the post about looking past race if you are white you should look around and see what is happening to our people.thanks God bless and good hunting Joshua Fowler

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Obama and Romney = same thing.Top contributers Goldman-Sachs,Bank of America,JP Morgan etc..Both support NDAA,Patriot Act,bailouts,wars...etc.. Creating jobs that tax payers have to pay is like raising your kids allowances to help with making the family income higher so you can pay the bills.The "FED" just keeps printing money so now the dollar is worth $.19.That is why silver dollars arent made anymore because our money is not backed by anything but debt,I gues they could squish a beer can and we could call that a silver dollar! Sadly America is full of blindfolded fools. THEY ARE THE SAME and they want us fighting between each other so we dont see what they are doing.I wish we had to read Every canidates voting records,main contributors,and what they plan to do for the country(and be accountable for not doing it after they get elected) and not know who it was until or their party until after they got elected we might wind up with a better outcome. Oh yes lets not forget they both agree on gun control also. GOOD LUCK FELLOW AMERICANS!!!

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Health care, I think the politions and their buddies(worm) should get to have it also because we all know it will be cheaper,faster,way more efficient and better just like everything the gov does! They both agree on that too.

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Union hands in Baton Rouge Louisiana are about 90-95 percent working. Unions in the southeast are around 75-80 percent working. Maybe stop being a rat and get in a Union to help with a job and better pay and healthcare!!! Everything is not better today than it was 3 years ago BUT 3 years ago was not as good as Clinton years!! Give the man a chance !! If republicans would stop worring about making him a one term President and worry more about the people that elected them we all would be better off!!!!

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TOMMIE its not the private sector unions that is the problem its the service worker or govermnent funded unions that gave the dnc 400 million in 08 that put the community organizer in office. instead of funding programs for the brothern, retirement etc.

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GM
If GM would have failed this country would be in deep deep trouble! So spin it any way you want BUT Obama did the right thing along with our congressmen to help keep GM going!


GM did fail. They went bankrupt after the gov't tried bailing them out. They should have been left to fail to begin with. They needed to restructure. The Unions caused it all.

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It doesn't seem to me union hands are doing any better than the rest of the public. I gave a quick look to the labor statistics for the state of Louisiana it's at around 7.5% for the month of June. So something between 90 and 95% working would be exactly 7.5% not working. Only difference is no body is getting part of my check on a weekly basis.

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Current Unemployment Rates for States and Historical Highs/Lows
Current Unemployment Rates for States and Historical Highs/Lows
Seasonally Adjusted
June 2012p Historical High Historical Low
State Rate Date Rate Date Rate
Alabama 7.8 Dec. 1982 14.3 Apr. 2007 3.2
Alaska 7.3 June 1986 11.5 Apr. 2007 5.9
Arizona 8.2 Jan. 1983 11.6 July 2007 3.5
Arkansas 7.2 July 1983 10.1 Nov. 2000 4.0
California 10.7 Oct. 2010 12.4 Jan. 2001 4.7
Colorado 8.2 Nov. 2010 9.0 Jan. 2001 2.6
Connecticut 8.1 Dec. 2010 9.4 Oct. 2000 2.1
Delaware 6.7 Dec. 1976 9.3 Feb. 1989 2.8
District of Columbia 9.1 Feb. 1983 11.6 May 1989 4.8
Florida 8.6 Feb. 2010 11.4 Aug. 2006 3.3
Georgia 9.0 Jan. 2010 10.5 Dec. 2000 3.3
Hawaii 6.4 Jan. 1976 9.9 Dec. 2006 2.3
Idaho 7.7 Feb. 1983 9.6 Mar. 2007 2.7
Illinois 8.7 Feb. 1983 12.9 Feb. 1999 4.2
Indiana 8.0 Jan. 1983 12.7 Apr. 1999 2.6
Iowa 5.2 Mar. 1983 8.6 Oct. 1999 2.5
Kansas 6.1 Aug. 2009 7.6 Apr. 1979 3.0
Kentucky 8.2 Jan. 1983 12.0 June 2000 4.1
Louisiana 7.5 Nov. 1986 12.8 July 2006 3.6
Maine 7.5 Jan. 1977 9.0 Jan. 2001 3.1
Maryland 6.9 Nov. 1982 8.4 Feb. 2008 3.3
Massachusetts 6.0 Jan. 1976 11.1 Oct. 2000 2.6
Michigan 8.6 Dec. 1982 16.8 Mar. 2000 3.3
Minnesota 5.6 Dec. 1982 9.1 Mar. 1999 2.5
Mississippi 8.8 Apr. 1983 13.5 Apr. 2001 4.9
Missouri 7.1 Feb. 1983 10.6 Jan. 2000 2.8
Montana 6.3 Mar. 1983 8.8 Dec. 2006 3.1
Nebraska 3.8 Feb. 1983 6.7 Feb. 1998 2.2
Nevada 11.6 Oct. 2010 14.0 Apr. 2000 3.8
New Hampshire 5.1 Sept. 1992 7.6 May 1987 2.1
New Jersey 9.6 Dec. 1976 10.7 July 2000 3.6
New Mexico 6.5 Mar. 1983 10.0 June 2007 3.4
New York 8.9 Nov. 1976 10.3 Apr. 1988 4.0
North Carolina 9.4 Feb. 2010 11.4 Mar. 1999 3.1
North Dakota 2.9 Feb. 1983 6.8 July 2001 2.6
Ohio 7.2 Jan. 1983 13.9 Jan. 2001 3.8
Oklahoma 4.7 June 1983 9.2 Dec. 2000 2.8
Oregon 8.5 Jan. 1983 12.1 Feb. 1995 4.7
Pennsylvania 7.5 Mar. 1983 12.9 Mar. 2000 4.0
Rhode Island 10.9 Jan. 2010 11.9 July 1988 2.9
South Carolina 9.4 Dec. 2009 12.0 Mar. 1998 3.2
South Dakota 4.3 Feb. 1983 6.0 Mar. 2000 2.5
Tennessee 8.1 Jan. 1983 12.8 May 2000 3.9
Texas 7.0 Nov. 1986 9.3 Jan. 2001 4.2
Utah 6.0 Mar. 1983 10.0 Mar. 2007 2.4
Vermont 4.7 Jan. 1976 8.8 Apr. 2000 2.4
Virginia 5.7 Jan. 1983 7.8 Dec. 2000 2.2
Washington 8.3 Nov. 1982 12.2 May 2007 4.4
West Virginia 7.0 Mar. 1983 18.1 Apr. 2008 3.9
Wisconsin 7.0 Jan. 1983 11.5 Feb. 2000 3.0
Wyoming 5.4 Jan. 1987 9.1 Apr. 1979 2.3

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In January of 2009, Barack Obama promised Americans an "unprecedented" level of transparency in his dealings with the American people and throughout his Administration. Almost four years have passed since that promise, during which time, Americans have witnessed an extraordinary level of deception and obfuscation, all designed to divert attention from the Obama Administration's failure to grow the economy, their failure to create jobs, their failure to curb out-of-control government spending, and their failure to maintain American prestige on the international level.

In fact, Team Obama is basing their entire reelection strategy on a single hope, that while it may not be possible to fool all the people all the time, Barack Obama only needs to fool 50% of the people for another 85 days.

Obama is highly skilled at obscuring the truth. Let’s look at the record:

During his 2008 presidential campaign, Obama claimed that he would create 3.5 million jobs by 2012. 2012 is here and the country faces 8.3% unemployment, or so it would seem. However, the Bureau of Labor Statistics , at the request of the Obama Administration has skewed the numbers, artificially lowering the unemployment rate by changing the measurement metrics, re-categorizing some of the applicants for unemployment and dropping others from the jobless rolls if they have been unemployed for too long. Many estimate that the number is far closer to 13% than 8.3% . So, rather than the transparency promised, the Obama Administration has gone to extremes to obfuscate the true unemployment numbers.

The president has not been transparent about taxpayer investments from the Stimulus and other "special interest" programs. For example, the $574 million dollar investment in the failed, solar panel company, Solyndra, is just the tip of the iceberg. The White House has not revealed the true amount of the wasted dollars from failed "green" jobs programs, nor revealed the true extent of its involvement in these failures. This past week, emails revealed that Obama had direct knowledge of the problems with Solyndra, yet continued to tout the success of "green" enterprises and "green" jobs. Hardly the transparency promised.

A PRINCE WHOSE CHARACTER IS THUS MARKED BY EVERY ACT WHICH MAY DEFINE A TYRANT IS UNFIT TO BE THE RULER OF A FREE PEOPLE
THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE 1776

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Hey Danny why don't you ask one of the BUSINESS OWNERS who put everyone to work why are they HIRING illegal immagrants instead of AMERICANS if they would not hire them I'll bet they would go home, you think? And if everyone would refuse to buy the cheap foriegn made products and suffer for just a month or so by paying a little higher price for AMERICAN MADE Products the stores selling that foriegn made stuff would find American Made products. You say that stuff but have you really checked? Were I went to school if you do not have working middle class people buying your product you have no reason to produce it so why would you hire anyone? I know if I was to build a house to sell I'm going to be pretty sure someone is going to buy it. And Curly I do pay Dues and I still make more money than the nonunion electrician. And, my health insurance or my pension(RETIREMENT) does not come out of my check. And our contractors seem to be doing real good also. I thnk that is a pretty good deal, but thats just me. For those who actually studied the fall of the auto industry might remember that the cost of labor to build a vehicle was 10% of the cost of a vehicle 10%!! What happened to the other 90%. And what I really can't understand is why would a man working with his hands want to tear down another for making more money doing the same thing? The way everyone on hear talks you would think they would want to join them. UNION IBEW SINCE 1986 AND WILL DIE UNION.

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Is the unemployment rate as high as it is reported?

I doubt it. Taking into consideration all the variables, at least 5 out of 100 will not work. PERIOD.

You hunters, like myself, are as good as any one of the presidential candidates. You pick one part of the economy and HAMMER AND BASH!

This government and economy is so complex, an expert panel or committee on economics should be at the "TABLE" to help fix this mess.

Another thing, why is Mexican labor even discussed? They will not be mass deported. They will do better in years to come because of the new wave that are on their way to citizenship.

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worm, i know why they hire illegals,,because they are here and cheaper. before the gates were opened they didnt have a choice. now every city has an illegal alien issue.it doesnt help that your dem pres is taxing that business so hard, he can only stay green by hiring illegals. i can do the math, you probaly increase your profit line 30 % by using cheap illegal labor and greed is on the menu. but if they wasnt here to begin with we wouldnt be havin this discussion would we. what would you do? your check aint tax free,are you gonna be ok when they start taking a 100 more a check to help support the burden illeagals put on our welfare system? its mind boggling that your ok with the new protection obama has put in place guaranteeing 2 yr work visas for young illegals. worm what are we gonna do with the millions of non english speaking, un-educated illegals when they start reproducing for citizenship and dont have a job combined with the other millions of americans that are out of work? while we are trillions in the red, who is gonna foot the bill for their 100 of millions in welfare claims? where will it come from? you and me worm,,thats who. i wanna hear u say your ok with that, and then we will move on to the other truths.you and your unions are what drives the costs up on american made products. corp america has alot of really smart people that analyze ways to increase profits. bypassing higher priced american products for cheaper made foreign ones is one of them. cost of living increases such as fuel,insurance groceries, combined with heavier tax burdens have all but forced americans to buy cheaper. we wont even talk about gay marriage this go around. that should just be strike 3 ur out

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Worm Labor is 10% of the cost of a new vehicle, 30% is paying the pension of the retired union man. I think the labor unions in this country have had there place but with workmans comp, minimum wage, unemployement, and osha there aren't very many situations where they are anything but a cost burden. You say you don't pay for your retirement and your health insurance, where do you think that money comes from? It doesn't come out of thin air, it's your money they are just paying for the insurance and pension with it before you get it, or with your dues. We have a small business and we've worked around bigger towns and the unions have giving us some trouble mostly just yellin and carring on but I know they have destroyed other nonunion companies equipment. I guess that just turned my stomach on them. As for the illegals you are talking about, your man Obama wants them all to be legals. Someone that's against illegal immigrants prob wouldn't be voting for Obama.

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I worked for GM for 27 years, never made more than $95000 a year. Every year they used to release what the pay rate was for every one in the plant never was front office personnal put on that sheet.The problem is the bonuses and travel expenses they gave out!! NO working man is the cause of the money problems at GM or any other bankrupt company!! As for the pensions you earn that money while you work, no future generations have to pay for a Union person!!

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The result is the per-hour labor cost to the automakers, which is very different from "pay" or "wages" or even "wages and benefits" earned by their workers. As David Leonhardt pointed out in the New York Times (countering, in a sense, the earlier piece by Sorkin), the average GM, Ford and Chrysler worker receives compensation – wages, bonuses, overtime and paid time off – of about $40 an hour. Add in benefits such as health insurance and pensions and you get to about $55. Another $15 or so in benefits to retirees (known as "legacy costs") brings the number to roughly $70

PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT LAST SENTENCE JOHNNY.

I agree with you the problem is poor management at the top not the working man, but when you have the labor cost of $70 for unskilled labor (and some of those are skilled also) there is a problem. I just happen to think that the unions are also at fault. I know that the workers didn't see that $70 but thats what the company had to pay out.

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Hate to inform you BUT that is a lie!!!Total Package 5 years ago was around 47.50 per hour at St. Louis GM !!So keep believing everything the media tells you and we will be in worse trouble than we are already!!You need to study your history:NO republican President has ever increased work in this country!!!Take the last 2 for example: Idiot bush well that is enough said about him! Retard reagen took office with ZERO defecit(Carter was not the best BUT numbers speak real loud)!!!It took Clinton 6 years to striaghten out the first bushy problems Little bush screwed up even worse So how could anyone fix it in 3?

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Is that what the worker was paid?(47.50) Well that's not what the company has to pay. Thats the difference between Wages and Labor costs. In our business we have to pay a set rate depending on where we are working, then we have to pay like 17% into workmans comp. That means I have to pay the wage rate PLUS the workmans comp, and we don't offer med insurance or retirement which would be even more. So those would be added costs to the company, that the company has to pass on to the consumer.
As to your presidents creating work, you have to compare apples to apples. Look at the unemployement rates vs job creation. If only 4% of people are out of work it's hard to create millions of jobs.
Lets just turn the discussion to this; what has Obama done that's positive for this country? When will this stop being Bush's fault? At what point does Obama have to start running on his record? What happened to his promises, and which ones did he actually keep?
Just to be clear Romney isn't my first choice but he's better than Obama. I would like to see Ron Paul or Gary Johnson in office but we have a flawed 2party system that can't ever be changed. It's terrible that we have to vote for the lesser evil but that's the way it is as of late.

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Small must be your beian size , he sad total package! And does not matter if Union or rat you still pay workmanship comp! Most companies knows that comes into the job cost!!!

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Jason how has that voting for evil been workin out for us? And it can be fixed "they" work for us and we out number "them"! And Dr.Ron Paul is the answer, check him out guys and gals.

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English please, so I can understand what you are trying to cobble together and sorry man, I'm just telling you what it costs the business and THAT gets passed onto the consumer. I was simply telling you what our LABOR COSTS were, and stating the fact that it would be much higher if we were union. It's funny that you tell me I have a small brain (not beian) and your are an illiterate (that means can't read good)ding dong. I mean if you are going to insult someones intelligence please spell check that **** man.

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Guys you can talk all you want about who needs to be president BUT it does not matter!!! UNTIL we get better people inti the congess and senate NO PRESIDENT will get anything accomplished!! We have Bohner who already stated he does not care what goes on as long as he can make Obama a one term President: Then you have Pelosi who has no clue as to what the people in Cali are going thru!! This is just 2 of the blooming idiots that are the BIGGEST problems in Washington!!Start at the local level and work your way up to make it better!!

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Ray I agree with you 100%, have you read anything on Gary Johnson? He has a very similar set of ideas. It just sucks that if you vote for Johnson or Paul that's just 2 votes that don't go against Obama. The Libertarians just can't get into this 2 party system we have. We don't have a chance with this mainstream media and these career politicians. I was campaigning for Paul when the GOP debates were going on and people would say" He just doesn't sound like a politician." thats why they didn't like him and thats why I loved him. Two words COMMON SENSE. Nothing will change until people are willing to lesson to something besides the same old thing. It's like slamming your d$%k in a car door, and then doing it again and again and expecting a different outcome.

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I just took a quiz on facebook that asks you how you feel on a bunch of issues and then it adds it all up and tells you who you voted for. It was awesome and I wish that was the way we always voted not D OR R OR L just on how they stood on things!! Mike and Jason thank you now I might be able to sleep tonight knowing there are people without blinders on! We have 15 trillion reasons to look in a new direction

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where are u worm? i want to hear u say ur ok supporting millions of illegalls when obama care forces u to. i want to hear u say ur ok with a president that issues a direct phone number to call if ur an illegal and feel a state has discriminated against you and threatens federal imprisonment for anyone who has. lets hear u say ur ok with a party that supports a man or woman marrying a lizard or monkey. i want to see ur face when ur check is a 100 bucks lighter to help support all these visa protected illegals now fillin a hospital near you to throw that now american citizen. when the hospital ask how they payin for this delivery i would like for you to explain it to me now so i will understand how it wont cost me a dime what ur party has brought upon all of us.

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Would much rather pay for an illegal to be born than to worry about my son getting killed in Iraq for NOTHING!!!!!

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i feel ur pain sir and agree with u but have to remind u that was a choice. have the utmost respect for our military, jus not our leaders.

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If I remember right the democrats controlled congress when they voted to go into iraq. Bush could only keep troops there for 60 days on his own.

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Danny I have been hunting, I never said I was ok with illegal immigrants, I do know if there is no work for them they will go home. Obama has deported more than any other president, Bush actually had some working for him on his ranch

And when I said the cost of labor was 10% that includes social security and everything that has to be paid for a EMPLOYEE!!!!!

Jason, so now it was the Democrats who took us to war, who told you that fox news, rush limbaugh or was it the great glen beck? By the way were is he know

And the war in Iraq is over, and we can't get out of Afghanistan fast enough. Why is Rommeny and Ryan want to cut our veterns benefits? If it were up to me I would raise taxes another 20% and none of our veterans or their families would not have to worry about taking care of themselves or a job or a home, thats what don't make since to me. A man or women sacrificing their lives and a millionaire crying because he don't want to sacrifce a small amout of their fortune. God Bless our TROOPS and their families and those who have been lost, they are in a better place. And will not be forgotten.

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Danny I have been hunting, I never said I was ok with illegal immigrants, I do know if there is no work for them they will go home. Obama has deported more than any other president, Bush actually had some working for him on his ranch And I don't care what or who a man or women wants to marry, thats is between them and The GOOD LORD. And I will bet right now there are more Americans going to the hospital and not paying because they lost their insurance when they lost their job.

And when I said the cost of labor was 10% that includes social security and everything that has to be paid for a EMPLOYEE!!!!!

Jason, so now it was the Democrats who took us to war, who told you that fox news, rush limbaugh,dich cheeny, or was it the great glen beck? By the way were is he know

And the war in Iraq is over, and we can't get out of Afghanistan fast enough. Why is Rommeny and Ryan want to cut our veterns benefits? If it were up to me I would raise taxes another 20% and none of our veterans or their families would not have to worry about taking care of themselves or a job or a home, thats what don't make since to me. A man or women sacrificing their lives and a millionaire crying because he don't want to sacrifce a small amout of their fortune. God Bless our TROOPS and their families and those who have been lost, they are in a better place. And will not be forgotten.

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worm, are you serious? why would they leave if there was no work? THEY DONT HAVE TO!!!!they have already received their 2 yr get outa jail free card and will now move on to citizenship after they fill the hospitals and welfare offices with pregnant momas.all at taxpayer expense.free food,diapers,education etc..and you think they will just go back to mexico? you keep sayin dont hire em and they will leave. and go where? mexicos government says if you dont work you starve. you say your not ok with illegal immigrants but your party is opening the gate worm. i agree more people may be goin to the hospital now more than ever, but it aint free. you and i will feel that pain and i bet if they surveyed who was really goin and receiving treatment a large percentage would be your democratic illegals and just deadbeats who could work but found it easier to collect unemployment and welfare on my dime.and obama aint deported anybody. he gave em a hotline to call if anyone tried and threatened federal imprisonment for any federal or state officers who tried to enforce already FEDERAL LAW.WHAT? that included border control.and then has the liberal media bash arizona because they tried to enforce it themselves before their state became overrun and bankrupt.I DONT WANNA SHARE WORM.

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Hell worm buy maytag and cat equipment and move to mexico.live fat shop at wal mart invest in lots of cheese.all these people have know **** sense this america border jumpers???people why have i had to pay taxes since i was 15??and file them its america and have failed to take of are own in america so lets run and buy mexico then ***** we dont have work because some jerk off president???wake up

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Worm its a fact that the democrats controlled congress when we went to war, the President can send Marines in but just for 45 or 60 days I can't remember which it was. So I agree going into Iraq was a huge mistake but don't think that it was all Bush there were alot of democrats pushing to go also. Where did you read that Ryan and Romney are cutting veterans benefits CNN?
Worm you are pushing Obama, and I don't understand why except he is a Democrat. What is it about him you like, or are you just a democrat and that's the way you've voted and your daddy voted and your granddaddy voted?? Why should I vote for Obama? He has done far more damage than good in the last 4 years. I am not a democrat or republican I actually favor Ron Paul. You always go back to Clinton when WE are talking about Obama because you don't have anything good to say about him either. If you do have something that you like about him I'd love to hear it.