I've got 2 gyp pups whelped 4-10-12 out of Ponders Santa x canerdays tinker all pups n litter r started and doing good I have 6 I keep n litter and can't hunt them all, all will compete $450 for pair r $250 a piece. 2. Pups whelped 7-1-12 have one good looking male b&t whtpts crosbys rusty x ponders Billy jean $175 bout ready to start. Call me at (318)614-1736 if no answer leave message