i agree with ryan here..i like to go see the hounds run and try and pick me one out that i like and try to buy it...like last spring when the dog skinny one the derby i had no clue he would even place i just loved the way he could run a deer..i saw him on the front 6 different crossings and no judge in sight..i bought him before the hunt was over..and yes Sam yall do a great job at these hutns..