I have a gyp that is out of ch.Gunstock Casper and Conners Olive.. Olive was a Popeyes Helliums gyp.... she is about 8 years old she has never been feild trailed because my brother owed her and all he does is deer hunt.. I breed to her once and got some pretty nice 10 month old pups out of her.. she could and still can roll a deer ...if interested call me at 850-698-8345